Viper,the Salzo version!!

[Wombat]

Well after been outa the building mood for a bit i've finally got back ta having some fun.Got this bird a few weeks ago and decided ta make a start.
Have mainly been working an idea for the lighting of the kit.My original idea i had was ta use the plug that i'm using to mount and feed the power for the lights and to mount it in the balance point.Well my female plug is too long ta mount it at that point so i've gone the closest i can ta that point and will have ta add ballast ta the back to get it balanced up again for the stand.
Ground out some channels ta run the wires from the plug ta the engine cans.
So this is what i've done so far and i think it should work out ok?
Well hopefully!
Wings are pinned and i've got my pair of 3/16 solid rods going through both rear engine halves and into the forward fuselage to give it some strength.The front of this baby is pretty heavy compared ta the rear as a lot of that is hollow.
But i think these rods should hold it together pretty well.
Gee it's another fine kit from Mike,this really is outstanding castings!!
I just love the rear cans on this thing!!
Thrown in a pic with the old under size SS Viper,theres a bit of difference!

[R L Bleecker]

Nice nice nice...

I'm getting excited to be doing these myself. Lovely kit, ain't it?

[Sci Fi Smoker]

This one's gonna be sweet!

[79 daytona]

WOW!!! Way to go Wombat can't wait to see how this will turn out.

Makes me want to start on my.

[Lord Boron]

i was hoping someone would post a buildup of one before I had a go at mine. Good idea about the pins. Can't be to safe! Any plans for lighting?

[Wombat]

Nice nice nice...

I'm getting excited to be doing these myself. Lovely kit, ain't it?

It sure is Bob,it's only me second kit from Mike but they both have been outstanding.Damn theres some awesome detail in this baby.
I'm excited ta see what you do with them bird there,ya always do top work and these will be no exception!:cool:


This one's gonna be sweet!

We'll see how sweet it is when i'm through with it,but i hope so?:grin:


WOW!!! Way to go Wombat can't wait to see how this will turn out.

Makes me want to start on my.

Cheers there daytona!

i was hoping someone would post a buildup of one before I had a go at mine. Good idea about the pins. Can't be to safe! Any plans for lighting?

Dude,i'll be lighting it,the plug and the description of what i've done are in the first post!:rolleyes::grin:

[Elkybaby]

Bitchin! I love what your doing with the internal lighting!:D

[greeble_gremlin]

Very Nice Work so far Wombat!
Considering the fine Paint job you did on the First Viper I'm sure this second one will rock!
By the way...what colors did you use? or is that in your other Viper thread?
Can't wait to see this baby finished.

[suki5150]

Very nice man.


Going to be fantastic work again. !!


Cheers,
Chris.

[777]

looking forward to this build Wombat!

[Wombat]

Chris and 777,i hope i can do a good job with it.
Having a kit that is so good OOB is gonna make my life that much easier and give me a pretty good chance of making it look the part.;)
Hopefully!:grin:


Bitchin! I love what your doing with the internal lighting!:D
Thanks mate,i got the idea from something i seen here on the board by a fellow member.Thats just one of the great things i love about the place.Theres so much awesome building here from people that have such creative skills it's hard not ta pick up an idea or two.
I found out about rare earth magnets also from one of OOT's builds as well and they worked on the Raider for the battery cover.
Always learning,not saying i can do it but it's always good seeing how the top model builders go about thing.:cool:



Very Nice Work so far Wombat!
Considering the fine Paint job you did on the First Viper I'm sure this second one will rock!
By the way...what colors did you use? or is that in your other Viper thread?
Can't wait to see this baby finished.

Thanks gg,dude it sure is one fine kit,you should be very proud dude!:cool:
Well the answer ta your question about the paint i did reply ta in the other thread.I'll be using acrylics this time so we'll see how it goes aye?;)
Heres the link ta your question about the paints.
http://www.resinilluminati.com/showthread.php?t=1794&page=2

[777]

Chris and 777,i hope i can do a good job with it.Mate, if your work is anything to go by, I think we're in for a treat! :thumbsup:

[LastBattlestar]

NOICE!

I'll be checking this out in person very soon. Man, that thing is hella nice.

Phil has also said that I can have his old Viper now that he has a better one to park on the launch rail. Thanks Phil!:p

We really must kick some ass at next year's model show Phil, with a studio scale display. 2 Raiders, 2 Vipers, Colonial Movers (and little brother RTF ship), B wing and a Galactica. Hell, let's throw in your 20 foot Saturn 5 and freak out all the armour modellers!:D

Get building. I can offer some advice if you want to fibre optic that cockpit?

Mike, Oz

[mslz22]

Looking good, i will be starting the instructions for this tomorrow but Phil is right on track with what i have in mind, it really should be a very easy kit to put together....even with the lights.

I have been toying around with making a hollow bottom base with the eagle(like on the full size helmet) available, it would allow you to hide a battery and a switch in the hollow bottom of the base, unlike the Raider, the viper does not have lend itself as well to an internal battery that can be easily accessed for replacement...
mike

[Wombat]

Mate, if your work is anything to go by, I think we're in for a treat! :thumbsup:

Hey thanks Drew,you're being a lil to kind there but it's appreciated dude!:cool:


NOICE!

I'll be checking this out in person very soon. Man, that thing is hella nice.

Phil has also said that I can have his old Viper now that he has a better one to park on the launch rail. Thanks Phil!:p

We really must kick some ass at next year's model show Phil, with a studio scale display. 2 Raiders, 2 Vipers, Colonial Movers (and little brother RTF ship), B wing and a Galactica. Hell, let's throw in your 20 foot Saturn 5 and freak out all the armour modellers!:D

Get building. I can offer some advice if you want to fibre optic that cockpit?

Mike, Oz

Ya know,for a brief moment i thought about some kind of lighting for the cockpit.So yeah,i'll be interested ta see what ya think i can do with it then.again i have an idea but not really sure it doable though.
I think the deal on the old Viper was ya get it when ya finish that badass G!:p
Shit yeah,that show won't know what hit em,bit sparse on the sci-fi front,i,m sure we can change that like ya said!!:grin:


Looking good, i will be starting the instructions for this tomorrow but Phil is right on track with what i have in mind, it really should be a very easy kit to put together....even with the lights.

I have been toying around with making a hollow bottom base with the eagle(like on the full size helmet) available, it would allow you to hide a battery and a switch in the hollow bottom of the base, unlike the Raider, the viper does not have lend itself as well to an internal battery that can be easily accessed for replacement...
mike

Thanks Mike,i'll be looking for them instruction when ya get em done.
But i think i know how pretty much most of it goes.
Ya can put me down for one of them bases mate!;)
That sounds sweet.:cool:

[Damien9479]

Goes to show you how much attention I have been paying lately :rolleyes:
You snuck this in on me there Phil!!
Dude those pins will definitely hold her together!!
I'm sure you give this one the same care and attention to detail like you do on all your builds!!:cool:
I'll be watchin this one buddy!! ;)

[LastBattlestar]

Yeah Phil, no pressure mate!:eek:

Mike, Oz

[Wombat]

Thanks for the vote of confidence there Tom!
So far so good.;)
Mike,theres no pressure dude!!:rolleyes:

Most of it is cleaned up (the little that it requires) and in primer now.
Just finished puttying and sanding what i'm guessing are seam marks from the casting on the front fuselage.
Thats washed and ready for the primer tomoz.
Should get the wiring run for the lights and the holes cut out for the reflectors and that rear section glued together tomorrow also?:grin:
So it's going pretty straight forward at the moment but there are a few bits here that i have no clue where they go.So i'm a lil hesitant ta glue a lot together till i see Mike's instructions.

[LastBattlestar]

Heh, glad to see I'm not the only geek building models at midnight!

Mike, Oz

[Wombat]

^
I'm afraid ya,i'm done for the night!!!:p

[79 daytona]

Sounds like its really coming along Wombat can't wait to see your next update.



Mark.

[Wombat]

^
Cheers Mark,it's getting there all be it slowly!!


Ok,heres where it's at tonight.
The wiring and plug are fitted and the rear cans have the holes in em for the reflectors.
I wont fit them reflectors till after the painting is done.
All three parts are now glued together and i'll fix up some lil gaps with a bit of gap filling CA tomorrow.Everything is in white primer and i applied a wash to some of the bit's.Sorta a pre shade before the colour goes on i guess.

So thats where it's at,not sure what i'll get done after work during the week but we'll see how it goes.

I also have just about finished the Raider at last,thanks ta Mike Salzo for supplying me some more decals.


Now,can someone perhaps Mike or GG tell me where these bit's go?

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20691&stc=1&d=1228042609

[mslz22]

Hey Phil, those parts in the big pic, the little tank tracks are optional if you want to put them on the inside of the side (not top) intakes, right around the inner lip on the sides, i will show this in the instructions in the next day or so, they were on at least some of the filming models. The squares, again are optional if you want them, they were used as mount covers on the filming model and would go infront of the canopy inbetween the "rails" use the one with small spacers for that, and on the bottom directly under where the top cover would go.
Again, I consider these optional, but i think they look cool...
thanks
mike

[79 daytona]

That looks GREAT!! Phil its really coming along.

[Wombat]

^^
Thanks again Mark.

Cheers for that Mike,not sure if i'll use them optional bits or not.But least i know what they are now.I guess the top one can just be placed on top and then i get the choice of look?
Cheers again dude's!

[mslz22]

Yeah, the top one does not need to be glued, you can just "plop" it on and those rails will hold it in place.
mike

[Wombat]

Well after achieving very little during the week here is where i'm at with it tonight!
The lil tracks and impellers have been added to the intakes and is now basicly ready for the base colour.The rear cans i sprayed with a dark copper and will mask them for the paint job.The lights work just fine and i like the effect!
I still need ta see how the lil u channel bits go when Mike gets to them in the instructions and fit those last parts to the rear but after they are fitted it's off ta the paint shop!:cool:


http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20916&stc=1&d=1228567214

[mslz22]

Boy that looks great! Here is a a pic for the U Channel, you can use some discretion but they should be roughly square and evenly spaced...
thanks
mike

[R L Bleecker]

Nice nice nice Mister 'Bat!

[79 daytona]

Thats looking outstanding!!!! Phil

[Sci Fi Smoker]

Killer engines!!!!!

[Wombat]

Cheers there gang,it's really starting ta look like a Viper now!:cool:


Mike,thanks for that pic dude,i think that was the final bit i needed ta see how was done!:grin:

[Wombat]

Not much to show but this is the base colour.
Well actually it's the second attempt!:rolleyes:
and i'm still not that happy with it!!
It's a mix of white,royal light grey and deck tan.
The first paint had too much of a tan appearence in it so i basicly just added some more white to the brew.

But a good wash and some weathering will change that appearence!;)
Or i'll be painting it for a third time!!:alright:

Fingers crossed aye!

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21127&stc=1&d=1228994227

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21128&stc=1&d=1228994255

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21129&stc=1&d=1228994280

The tail fin is just sitting there as is the canopy part.Once i get the markings on and the figure done i'll glue them on.
So in a couple of days i'll do some masking and see how them orange markings go.

[79 daytona]

That looks pretty damn close Phil i like it.

[RKW]

My choice of colour will be the blue grey used on US naval fighters such as the F-14.

[Wombat]

Thanks Mark.

Well i eneded up not being that positive on that colour so i sprayed it again with the base colour used on the other viper i did.
Still had some of that custom mix colour left over and mixed a lil more up to match pretty closely.
I guess it's not much different ta what i had but least this way i believe i should be able ta get a result like the other i did.
It sure looks different without the weathering on it though.
Only thing is this stuff is enamel so the drying time is longer than with my acrylics that i normally would use.

But i guess that gives me time ta paint the figure up now.;)

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21170&stc=1&d=1229162315

[R L Bleecker]

^ That's pretty close to what I came up with for a base color, which I'm shooting next door in the dining room right now! I've converted the table to an emergency winter workbench... My base color is lighter than radome tan and a tad more tan than dove gray.

So far the painting is going a hell of a lot faster.

[Wombat]

^
Thats good news then,i just checked out your thread and they look PFG there as well!

I guess i should have just painted this bird in that enamel ta start with instead of trying ta get something the same in an acrylic.Ended up wasting three days there and now it'll be next week before i start getting the markings on.
But the figure is turning out all right so far.
I think?

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21172&stc=1&d=1229178767

[79 daytona]

That base color looks pretty dead on to me Phil and the pliot figure looks great a lot better then i could do.

[Wombat]

^
Thanks again dude,but i'm sure your pilot will be every bit as good as this has turned out.
I'd say it'll be betta as this side of things really ain't my thing with the small detail.

Anyway here he is..
Not great but still betta than my last attempt on the MIM bird?

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21192&stc=1&d=1229241846

[suki5150]

Fantastic man.

He'll sit nicely in the cockpit.
Figures are a nightmare to do. Straight lines like that: I usually do with tape
painted, cut to size and stuck on. Cheating I know, but my figures are terrible and I dread seeing one when I crack the box............:(



Cheers,
Chris.

[Wombat]

^
Thanks Chris!
That tape idea is a bloody good one.
Cheating?It don't bother me as long as the result is good.
I'll have ta remember it for the next time!:grin:

[R L Bleecker]

There's also ultra-fine point permanent markers. ;)

[Wombat]

^
Thats what i used but i didn't get the one with the steady hand option fitted!!:(

Well seeing Bob's awesome builds is very inspiring ta get some stuff done here.Getting hard ta get some time ta do much just of late but this is where i'm at with it.
Thanks ta Darth Duck for some modeling tip booklets,one of which was weathering tips.It shows a paint chip effect using salt and i tried it out for the first time.
Might have gone a lil overboard but hey this isn't being done to replicate any particular Viper so i feel it'll fun weathering one up my way.
The stripes also on the wings i have done at this angle as i see i've seen a few pic's of the Viper with this sorta angle rather than follow the wing edge angle.

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21317&stc=1&d=1229503793

[Kuhn Global]

Lookin GREAT Wombat! :D VERY nice work! :D

[Wombat]

^
Why thanks very much Mate,
Like i said,seeing what OOT's doing with them builds over there of yours is very motivating ta get some work done over here.

It's just a time thing of late,or more so the lack of it!:alright:

[Damien9479]

I know what you mean by no time Phil!! Have been experiencing it myself!
Great job on the Viper so far!! ;)
The chipping looks great!! :cool:

[Eagle-1]

Yessir, there's MORE of those meager modeling skills rearing their ugly head again Phil.........

:icon_rolleyes:

Man you do good work Phil.

Keep it up!

Rob.

[LastBattlestar]

Looks really nice Phil. You're gonna have to teach me how to do the salt chipping thing on a project of mine. I think it looks just right on that Viper.

Nice chippage level. Did I just invent a new word?:eek:

Hey, are you going to drop in for a couple of Christmas beers or what?

Mike, Oz

[Dobber]

Man, I feel like I really missed out on something with this kit. It looks fantastic!

Chris

[Lord Boron]

Looks great! I've been wanting to try the salt technique for some time. Looks like it works well. This will look great with your raider!

[79 daytona]

That looks GREAT!!! Phil.

Iam going to have to try that salt trick when i do my.

[Wombat]

Thanks ta ya's all for your kind words.

It's all going well bar for the time i'm getting ta spend on it.
The salt chip effect does seem ta work quite well although i may have got a lil carried away with my attempt.But i like how it's done instead of chipping it away with a knife or something else.
Got the marking that runs on the top of the fuselage on late last night and it should be good ta unmask by tonight.
Slow progress but it is getting there.

Mike,sure thing dude,couple of tinnies and maybe check out again that awesome B-Wing ya been playing with.


Edit..and here it is..
http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21390&stc=1&d=1229592673

[Wombat]

All the markings are on now although i still may just touch up a couple of them before i start the weathering.
More salt chip effect was done ta the grey bands that run around the engines and also the last orange markings that went on the bottom.
Pilot,cockpit and canopy are just sitting there and i'll glue them bits in after the weathering and dull coat has been done.
So a day or two for these enamel paints ta dry,then it's weathering time.

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21532&stc=1&d=1229816950

[Richard_2001]

Wombat,

Man that is looking great! What a nice looking kit!! you have made some very nice markings there. I like the chipped paint effect you have pulled off and I am looking forward to seeing your weathering on that beauty!

Richard

[79 daytona]

That looks outstanding!! Phil . Just outstanding i really like the color you used for the marking.:D

[Wombat]

^^
Richard,Mark,guys thanks for them words!
It's looking more and more like a viper even though it's been hard ta get much done in the last couple of days.Started the weathering before some visitors called in and this is where i'm leaving it tonight.
Not that sure that i like what i've done but it's got a bit more to go and then i'm hoping the dull coat will lighten some of the weathering in places?

Things on tomorrow but i'll see if i can get it finished prior?
I guess the next update will be the finished piece!:grin:

http://www.resinilluminati.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21703&stc=1&d=1230041815

[Lord Boron]

Wow..looks fantastic! The weathering looks great!

[79 daytona]

WOW!!! Phil That Viper ROCKS!!!

Outstanding work!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Sci Fi Smoker]

Great work, Wombat!!!!

[suki5150]

Leave it Phil, looks sensational mate.


They wouldn't be clean anyway, they always look battered.



Chers,
Chris.

[dbhs]

Phil,

That looks outstanding. Great job on the salt paint chip effect. The weathering looks perfect. :D

-Doug

[greeble_gremlin]

Dude!

This looks great... If my Viper (if I ever have time to get back too it)comes out half as good... I'll be happy.
That's damn good weathering!

Is that Reefer Orange that you used on the stripes? It looks spot on.

Good work buddy! ....and to think you were worried

[Wombat]

Cheers again gang for all the encouraging and kind words!:cool:

Well it's done even though things didn't quite go ta plan.
Somehow still found a away to stuff something.This time i applied to heavier dull coat and had areas that went all crazy cracks on me.:alright::rolleyes:
But i've patched it up as best i can and am calling it finished.
I'll post it in the finished section soon.
Thanks again for all the bloody kind words during the build gang!!




Is that Reefer Orange that you used on the stripes? It looks spot on.

I tried to get that colour the Reefer Orange but none of the LHS had it or carried the Floquil or Poly Scale range!!
Bout the norm for down here!!:(
So it's just another one of the mixes!!;)

[Griffworks]

There's a fella at FineScaleModelers forum who posted that Russian Marker Red (Model Master #2127) is supposed to be as close to perfect as you can get in a bottle.


Fine work, regardless, Phil!

[Wombat]

Thanks me friend!!

I'll write that one down for a later trial,least those paints are available in the LHS's!;)

[Griffworks]

I picked up a bottle the other day and it looks pretty darned close. It also looks really close to flourescent orange, just a shade off.

[R L Bleecker]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h91/Freddo6/200.jpg

" Hey... Just make the damned color. "

[Talen]

Who says it better than Jack O'Neill :)