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I'm putting together a Monogram Raider as a practice piece before starting the Salzo V2 version. I thought I'd try out a few modifications to add a little more detail and customize the design a bit. I haven't glued the halves together yet. Comments/suggestions are appreciated.
The first thing I did was scribe all the raised panel lines. Quite tedious but worth the effort. I've added some additional detail around the engine area behind the cockpit. I'll be adding some more tubes/piping and extra details.
I also drilled out the cone-shaped engine pieces and added brass tubing to increase the visual depth of the openings. I built new engine fins to be closer in detail to the studio scale version.
I decided to depart from the original design and change the recessed wells in the bottom of the wings to a scribed and raised panel design in keeping with the detailing on the top of wings. I'm also adding panel lines on the bottom that will help unify this design. I think it will look a little more consistent after I get some primer on it.
I also covered up the holes from the firing mechanism - used some of the original bits as greeblies. I'm working on rebuilding the guns with metal tubing to sharpen up the detail. It's slow going now but I'd like to start painting in a few weeks. Hope you like it.
05-17-2008, 07:59 PM
:eek: This is fantastic dbhs. I've just ordered a Revell one myself and am avidly awaiting it's arrival. Love what you are doing with this and if I feel brave enough may emulate a few of the wonderful enhancements you are putting into this. Good luck with the rest and keep us posted :D
05-17-2008, 08:05 PM
Thats looking really good,:D I just got my Salzo v2 kit in last week and i can't wait to start on it.
05-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Aw Man! You stole my idea! Great work so far! Keep those updates coming!:D
05-17-2008, 10:45 PM
Now THIS is wonderful to watch! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
This piece is going to turn out fantastic! I look forward to viewing more progress! :D:D:D
05-18-2008, 12:08 AM
Great job, I like the under wing detail. I got the new Revell kits and I want
to mod them to look like the studio models as much as possible. I'm gonna
replace the oblong tube at the rear of the Raider with styrene tube, and
rebuild the front piece under the cockpit. I also want to replace the tank
kit parts with parts from small scale kits, some 1/72 kits should work.
05-18-2008, 05:14 AM
Crikey's,that look's excellent what you've done with that kit dude!Some fantastic bit of detailing that has really enhanced it's look.
..... I'm gonna replace the oblong tube at the rear of the Raider with styrene tube, and rebuild the front piece under the cockpit. I also want to replace the tank kit parts with parts from small scale kits, some 1/72 kits should work. ....
Those are great ideas.
I wish I had started with the new release of this model to start a little closer to the studio scale but I already had the old version. I don't like the little fan blade detail in the round plug-in piece between the engines. I may try to modify that with scratch-built pieces. I'm ok with the piece under the cockpit but how it joins the body at each side is awkward and has gaps on my model. I'll either fill the gaps or cover them with strip styrene.
Here's an update on my progress. I glued the two halves together. They were a little warped, not bad, but enough that they needed clamping. It took a little while to figure out the best way to do this. These photos show what I came up with and it worked pretty good.
New piping detailing on top.
Final greebling under the wings.
More piping detailing on the other side. I also ran a micro channel strip along the back side of the upper enginer housing.
Next step is to fix up the seam all the way around.
Hope you guys like it.
05-24-2008, 11:38 PM
Damn,that look's bloody fantastic Dude!All those little bit's of added fine detail and scribbing make it look sweet.
Top job,look forward to your next update on this baby!;)
05-25-2008, 08:20 AM
Outstanding work :thumbsup: The detail work your doing really makes that kit stand out. :D
Thanks, 79. I'm having a lot of fun with this one.
05-25-2008, 08:22 PM
Man... I saw one yesterday at the IPMS Toronto show.... should have pick it up !!!!
Oh well.. you snooze you loose !
Great Job !!!! keep the pictures coming....
05-26-2008, 04:52 AM
:eek: Oh wow, that is coming along magnificently. dbhs, you're taking this into another dimension. Fantastic progress sir. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Of course things always go slower than I think they will but I'm finally getting around to an update. I got the seams filled and sanded and then added strip styrene and channels around the perimeter to give the wing a nice sharp edge.
Added some piping and detail work on the back. I may add a little more piping coming in and out of the recesses in the middle section.
Here's the channel detailing around the back side of the wing.
Final greeblies in the front plus filling the gaps and channel detail on the edge. Filling in the gaps around the front piece with those odd angles was a pain in the ass but I think it turned out ok (I'll see more after I primer it).
Overall top view.
Overall bottom view. I think the channel around the wings helps to unify the modification I did to the underside of the wings.
Thanks to everyone for their kind words and support.
06-24-2008, 11:10 PM
Wow the added details look fantastic, really bring it to life. I have the old Monogram version of this in my stash. I might need to use this thread to help me dress it up a bit, when I finally get around to it. Cool.
06-25-2008, 03:51 AM
Bloody good job with the detailing!
Amazing what you can do with a Monogram kit!
You've done it really well!;)
06-25-2008, 03:32 PM
Man all i can say WOW!!!! :o Your detail work really kicks a$$ i can't wait to see what comes nexts.
06-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Looking fantastic. I love the detail, especially what you've added to the canopy side panels. I was checking out the mashed up looking main reference model a few weeks ago and it seems to have them reversed, like, going inwards, which I didn't like and far prefer how you've done it and would like to follow suit. ;) Great work. Very inspiring. :yeah: :D
Hey guys -
Thanks for the feedback. I've primered the main body now. I'll add the cross bar in the back and the guns after it's painted. The added details are really blending in now. I'm pleased with how the wing changes on the bottom turned out although I'm noticing that there is a ghosting effect of the original wing design showing through the sheet styrene (see the circle on the last thumbnail). This is even with 2 light coats of primer. I'm using Dupli-Color Self-etching Primer in green (they were out of the grey so I went with it). I'll let this dry a full 24-hours and then do another light coat and see if it is still there.
After seeing it with primer I'm also really glad I scribed all the panel lines.
I'm experimenting with masking fluid on some scrap styrene to achieve some paint effects but having some problems. I'll post a question in the techniques section so anyone familiar with this please take a look at my example photo and let me know what I'm doing wrong.
Anyway - hope you like it. On to the pics......
And more pictures below.
06-28-2008, 08:56 PM
WOW!!!:o That looks great!!
R L Bleecker
06-28-2008, 09:19 PM
Keep it up!
06-29-2008, 05:45 AM
Coming along just nicely Sir!!
It's gonna look real good with some paint and weathering!!
Keep up the great work Doug!
I touched up some flaws revealed by the primer tonight. I'll have another update in a few days.
06-30-2008, 02:34 AM
That sounds great , I can't wait to see them.
Here are some progress shots of the painting.
Thanks to a suggestion from Hectors House (Thanks !!!) I got the liquid mask technique working. I want this ship to look battle-scared and pretty worn and dirty so I used the liquid mask over an initial dark metallic layer to show the paint worn through to bare metal. So far in these pics I just have the two main body colors on and have rubbed off the liquid masking. I want the central section to be a little darker than it turned out so I'll probably do a paint wash to darken it up.
I'm going to do a little aztecing on the panels, paint the wing stripes, then move on to the engine components.
More pics below....
07-04-2008, 12:35 PM
Looking GOOD!!!:D I like the idea of the liquid mask it really adds to the over all look of the ship. Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:
Here's another update. Painting in progress and weathering getting started.
07-18-2008, 11:21 PM
WOW!!! thats one beat up looking raider , Keep up the great work:thumbsup: and keep the post coming.
07-19-2008, 06:48 AM
Coming along real good Doug!
Like the beat up look,you've done a nice job there!!
Time for an update...
I just finished the washes and wanted to record this step before doing the next wave of weathering. I want this guy to look like it had been through a prolonged engagement and had been really raked over the coals by the colonials. Hope you guys like it.
08-06-2008, 12:56 AM
Doug,thats looking great dude!
Can't believe this is a monogram kit,you're doing a fantastic job on it!!!
Keep up the good work!!
08-06-2008, 05:32 AM
That looks GREAT!!! Doug and i like the weathering it really brings the kit to life.
08-06-2008, 10:35 AM
For you it might be "practice" but I would have considered that piece a "goal"!
Very well done- your techniques have given that otherwise rather simple kit real 'presence'!
Phil, Mark, DD,
Hey guys - thanks for the kind words. I'm having fun and taking my time on this. I've learned so much from the people on this website and it's good to see that some of it is sinking in.
The detail really starts to pop when the washes go on. I think that scribing the panel lines made all the difference on this piece. It was such a pain in the ass but now I'm really glad I did it.
The old decals that came with this one sucked. They were stretched out and distorted. I ended up using the "scratched up" ones that were left over from the new series cylon raider resin model from Howling Wolf. These are just a touch small on this model but look much better than the original ones. The damage on the decals blends right in with my beat up looks too. I'm glad I saved them.
08-07-2008, 12:05 PM
THIS is BEAUTIFUL!!! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
VERY nicely done sir! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
08-07-2008, 03:00 PM
Lovely job sir. ;)
Most of the weathering is done now on the main body. I need to finish up the guns and the cross bar in the back and get them attached. I'll post this up in the finished models section when it's done.
08-10-2008, 08:08 PM
Looking most excellent! Much bigger than it is too!
08-11-2008, 12:46 AM
Well she's looking good there Doug!
Seen a bit of Colonial action and lived to tell the tale!!
Awesome job on the weathered beat up look!!
08-11-2008, 06:19 AM
That looks GREAT!!! Doug.
The extra detail work and the weathering really makes that kit stand out.
Job well done!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
08-11-2008, 09:42 PM
Fantastic job! Love the paint/weathering!
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
08-12-2008, 12:42 AM
VERY nicely done sah!
The extra detailing seriously makes it pop. Nice work on the weathering too, not too much or too little and an even spread across the model.
Going to be a peach methinks! :D
08-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Can't wait for you to Start posting Primer or painting stage pictures...!!!
This looks great ... Now Chop chop !!!
08-17-2008, 08:41 PM
This has been fantastic to watch. Can't wait to see it in the finished gallery ;)
Thanks so much guys. I'm having a blast working on this.
See pages 3-5 for the primer through painting progress pictures.
Unfortunately real-life projects kept me away from the bench this weekend. I did manage a little research on a new modeling project that I'll start after this one is completed. I won't be able to start a thread on it for a while but I'm getting excited about it. It will be my first scratch-built studio scale model.
08-18-2008, 03:29 AM
Sounds very interesting Doug!
Any clues for the gang??;)
Come on dude ya can tell me,i'll keep it to meself!!:rolleyes::grin:
Thanks for your interest. I hate to say anything as just starting the thing may take forever but here's a clue for you.
08-19-2008, 01:29 AM
Ok,for us dumb bastards and that'd be just me,is there another clue?:alright:
08-19-2008, 01:31 AM
This guy's all done.
More photos posted in the finished models section.
Thanks to everyone for their feedback and support.
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