SD Persistent-class cutter 'Intractible' (Kuhn Global Build) [Archive]

R L Bleecker

01-24-2008, 12:07 PM

I'm very pleased to announce that I've been commissioned by Kurt to build a scaled-up version of my 7" scratchbuilt 'Persistent'-class cutter. The new ship will be a 'Block 2: Mod 1' version of the study model and will be the lead ship in a new sub-class. The name of the ship? ' Incumbent '. Her mission? Suppression of enemy communications and defense systems.... jamming, in other words!

Since this is my own design based largely on the Ralph McQuarrie/Joe Johnston concept art for the Super Star Destroyer, I have some leeway to have a bit of fun! There are no plans for a kit; this will be a one-off. Thanks goes to Kurt, because this is an unusual commission, as it's a non-canon custom work, which is something he normally hasn't commissioned to date.

For those who have not seen the study model, here are a few images to give you an idea of what the new, scaled up version will approximate. The Incumbent will be 27" in length overall and will be made of sheet acrylic, sheet styrene, wood and metal and yes... it will be lit! The study model is to scale with the 1:4222 ERTL destroyer.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/100_0543.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/100_0544.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/100_0550.jpg

Kuhn Global

01-24-2008, 12:46 PM

This is going to be SWEEEEEEEEEET!

I am VERY excited about this one Bob! :D

So... this one will be in scale with the future 4 foot Avenger SD that Richard will be doing after the 1701D. That makes it...what?.... about 27 inches long?

Oh yeah! This will be one to watch indeed! :D :cool::cool::cool:

Thank you my friend! :D

R L Bleecker

01-24-2008, 01:02 PM

^ Yep... 27 inches. So it's a little better than half the mass of a Destroyer. By Imperial capital ship standards, it's small. But its presence is quite large, because nobody sees it and the ships it protects coming. Too much electronic gibberish and too many false targets being generated. And it can work in concert with her sister ships to create a whole net of electronic suppression and can hand off jamming assignments between each ship to increase the confusion for the enemy side.

Her mission is directly based on the mission of the real life US Navy EA-6B Prowler.

http://www.airtoaircombat.com/images/prowler_lg.jpg

Summary of the EA-6B Prowler's role in warfare. (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ea-6.htm)

Kylwell

01-24-2008, 01:05 PM

Then there's the RC-12 (http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/guardrail.htm)...

R L Bleecker

01-24-2008, 01:12 PM

RC-12 is an ESM aircraft, rather than a jammer. ESM is Electronic Support Measures. Her mission is one of ELINT or Electronic Intelligence gathering. The Incumbent performs this role as well as active ECM ( Electronic Countermeasures ).

The EA-6B is the ONLY airborne tactical jamming platform used by our D.O.D. I only know this because... I used to troubleshoot, repair and maintain some of the countermeasures systems while I was in the USN.

Kylwell

01-24-2008, 01:24 PM

You know, I didn't know that. From my quick dig the AF just bolts a jamming pod on and hopes for the best, like the AN/ALQ-184.

R L Bleecker

01-24-2008, 01:30 PM

The Air Force now flies the Prowler along with the Navy after the EF-111B was retired. The latest version of the AN/ALQ-99 is the primary system.

They still bolt on pods and hope for the best ( not much hoping really, because this system is versatile and very powerful), but the Prowler carries 3 pods ( The other two out of the five wing stations are for drop tanks ) , configured for a variety of jamming scenarios.

The ALQ-99 is a much more sophisticated system than the ALQ-184. The 184 is pretty specific to its role within its role. The ALQ-99 is configurable depending on the band(s) of the spectrum that need to be jammed in the threat environment that planners expect to encounter.

R L Bleecker

01-25-2008, 12:44 PM

Thanks, Mech. I'm hoping to relax a little on this one.

rider

01-25-2008, 01:50 PM

Oh wow, study models. I love this place :D

ralphee

01-25-2008, 02:02 PM

This one will be fun, i love the sketch concept, to see this in a larger size with super detail will be very cool indeed!

lee

Dark Knight

01-26-2008, 09:38 PM

howsabout the Growler is it in service yet? will the USAF use it also?

R L Bleecker

01-26-2008, 10:30 PM

howsabout the Growler is it in service yet? will the USAF use it also?

'Growler' ( I hate the name )... won't be in service until about 2018. I imagine the USAF will use it as well, since versatile interbranch airframes seems to be the trend now. The AN/ALQ-99 ICAP III upgrade to the Prowler fleet was scheduled to begin around 2005. That's probably done by now. There's life in those old airframes yet.

'Growler', for those who don't know, is yet another modification of the F/A-18 airframe.

Kylwell

01-26-2008, 10:42 PM

2018? With the Prowler starting decommissioning in 2010?

F/A-18G "Growler"
The EA-6B will begin retirement in the 2010 timeframe, after a career that exceeded 40 years of deployments in support of USN, USMC, and USAF strike forces. As of early 2000, Defense Department planning for replacing the EA-6B Prowler include a scheme under which the Navy would buy an F/A-18G "Growler" -- an F/A-18E/F modified for escort and close-in jamming. The Air Force would provide standoff jamming with modified EB-52s or EB-1s, and close-in jamming with unmanned air vehicles such as the Northrop Grumman Global Hawk or General Atomics Predator.

R L Bleecker

01-26-2008, 10:49 PM

Here's the thing with defense planning. One never knows the exact dates. My info might be kind of old. Even with a phase-out beginning in 2010, it'll take a few years for every squadron-USN, USMC and USAF to fully eliminate these from the inventory. Congress could also change its mind and decide the Prowler can remain operational for awhile longer depending on funding priorities. But I think since the Prowler hasn't been in production since about 1992, those aging airframes are going to be the deciding factor in bringing the Electric Hornets online. It just depends on the material condition of the remaining existing airframes ( about 120 ).

But hey... what do I know. I was only part of the community for 5 years.

Kylwell

01-26-2008, 11:01 PM

No, no, you're correct. Hell the B2 was cancelled a record 13 times and it's mission statement changed just about every time. A10's were scheduled to be canned then proved thier worth so they got an extension. Yeah, Gowler's (not fond of that either) could be operational by 2010 or they could be put off 'til 2018 because somebody's district would suffer if the Prowler's stopped existing.

I chuckled when some congressman said the F35 was going to be the last fighter in the US inventory. I remember when the 104 was going to be the last fighter and everything was going to be missiles after that. Or when the Navy/AF went all missiles and no guns because no one would be dogfighting anymore.

About the only thing I think I can guarantee is that what ever a congressman says will not be the way it happens.

But back to models....

R L Bleecker

01-26-2008, 11:05 PM

But back to models....

Right you are!

And I have the funding for this baby. Keel-laying should begin soon.

Griffworks

01-27-2008, 06:27 AM

I'm very pleased to announce that I've been commissioned by Kurt to build a scaled-up version of my 7" scratchbuilt 'Persistent'-class cutter. The new ship will be a 'Block 2: Mod 1' version of the study model and will be the lead ship in a new sub-class. The name of the ship? ' Incumbent '. Her mission? Suppression of enemy communications and defense systems.... jamming, in other words!

Since this is my own design based largely on the Ralph McQuarrie/Joe Johnston concept art for the Super Star Destroyer, I have some leeway to have a bit of fun! There are no plans for a kit; this will be a one-off. Thanks goes to Kurt, because this is an unusual commission, as it's a non-canon custom work, which is something he normally hasn't commissioned to date.

For those who have not seen the study model, here are a few images to give you an idea of what the new, scaled up version will approximate. The Incumbent will be 27" in length overall and will be made of sheet acrylic, sheet styrene, wood and metal and yes... it will be lit! The study model is to scale with the 1:4222 ERTL destroyer.

Kewel! I remember that lil' model! Who put it out, again?

Can't wait to see this one progress. What scale does that make it, BTW?

R L Bleecker

01-27-2008, 02:24 PM

Kewel! I remember that lil' model! Who put it out, again?

Nobody. It was me. The model is one of a kind... a kitbash/scratch.

Can't wait to see this one progress. What scale does that make it, BTW?

Not sure. Whatever scale REL's upcoming SD is going to be. The large version of this will be scaled with that.

REL

01-27-2008, 02:27 PM

Mine will be half ss scale at 4'.

R L Bleecker

01-27-2008, 02:34 PM

Right. I think Griff was asking what the model scale would be. The original study model of mine was 1:4222... same as the ERTL... which was what... 18" ?

So, I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 1:1000, just on simple mental math.

REL

01-27-2008, 02:38 PM

So these will be 1/1000? Now that has some cool possibilities for cross universe dio's with broken and crushed 1/1000 Star Trek ships strewn about as we know they would be if they went up against Star Destroyers.:D

R L Bleecker

01-27-2008, 03:42 PM

I don't know if they'll be 1:1000 for sure. Probably in that neighborhood, though. Just as a guess, that seems about right... but a bit large.

But... if 18" = 1:4222 then 48" = about 1:1600 if my math is correct.

R L Bleecker

02-01-2008, 03:22 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin1.jpg

Moorcat

02-01-2008, 11:49 AM

'Growler' ( I hate the name )... won't be in service until about 2018. I imagine the USAF will use it as well, since versatile interbranch airframes seems to be the trend now. The AN/ALQ-99 ICAP III upgrade to the Prowler fleet was scheduled to begin around 2005. That's probably done by now. There's life in those old airframes yet.

'Growler', for those who don't know, is yet another modification of the F/A-18 airframe.

talked to an AT working at the rock this last week, and he said the Icap IIIs are still being phased in...and they are having problems. the airforce thats at the rock, they dont fly our birds, AF flys no jamming misions anymore at all...Navys doing it all.

R L Bleecker

02-01-2008, 12:37 PM

This may sound silly OOT, but do see yourself having trouble, upscaling some of the smaller scratch built shapes? Just curious.

Nope. I'll just use NEW shapes. The small model is just a prototype, which means I can take this one in different directions as long as the overall shape remains about the same.

R L Bleecker

02-01-2008, 01:53 PM

I really don't know what the hell I'm doing! :D

Talen

02-01-2008, 09:25 PM

you just happen to have random parts from Navy jets just lying around..cool

Moorcat

02-01-2008, 11:28 PM

you just happen to have random parts from Navy jets just lying around..cool
yup, and they are even engine parts...I used to work in AIMD where the engine teardown shop was, and the worn out parts were just tossed out.

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 12:04 AM

you just happen to have random parts from Navy jets just lying around..cool

Why... doesn't everybody? :confused::D

Talen

02-02-2008, 01:50 AM

I wish...

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 02:38 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin2.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin3.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin4.jpg

ralphee

02-02-2008, 03:03 AM

I like that tranny tower Bob, very busy buddy, nice use of the Falcon kit there too!

lee

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 03:25 AM

Thanks guys. I have to make a fairly fast pace without sacrificing significant detail or build quality. I agree with your guys' assessment that the detail level is just fine and about right.

Griffworks

02-02-2008, 05:58 AM

Well, dang. I thought you had built the original model as a master to be kitted. I remember the build several years ago at Hobby Talk, but didn't recall all the details.

Right. I think Griff was asking what the model scale would be. The original study model of mine was 1:4222... same as the ERTL... which was what... 18" ?

So, I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 1:1000, just on simple mental math.
Pretty darned close!

The smaller model scales out to the following for a "real" Incumbent-class using 7" as the starting length: Length: 2,462.83' / 750.62m

So, at 27" long it scales to 1/1095! Close enough for most folks to 1/1000 scale! :thumbsup:

Yeah, I'm a geek. Bite me if you don't like it. ;)

Scorpius

02-02-2008, 08:08 AM

Looking forward to this! Thumb's up!

Talen

02-02-2008, 08:59 AM

its amazing what primer will do to what seems to be a random array of parts

Kylwell

02-02-2008, 09:38 AM

Can you do us all a favor and ship some of those oh so spiffy engine parts off to be cast up in resin?

rider

02-02-2008, 09:46 AM

:eek: Holy crap, that is looking good

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 10:28 AM

Can you do us all a favor and ship some of those oh so spiffy engine parts off to be cast up in resin?

I've got one in reserve for just that purpose.

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 10:31 AM

Well, dang. I thought you had built the original model as a master to be kitted. I remember the build several years ago at Hobby Talk, but didn't recall all the details.

Well... it was never designed to be a master.... just a proof-of-concept. I'm not ready for a foray into the kit business just yet.

The smaller model scales out to the following for a "real" Incumbent-class using 7" as the starting length: Length: 2,462.83' / 750.62m

So, at 27" long it scales to 1/1095! Close enough for most folks to 1/1000 scale! :thumbsup:

Yeah, I'm a geek. Bite me if you don't like it. ;)

Sounds good to me. By KDY standards, this is a small ship... but this puppy is still big enough.

R L Bleecker

02-02-2008, 10:32 AM

:eek: Holy crap, that is looking good

Thanks to you and everybody for the kind comments!

Kuhn Global

02-02-2008, 12:23 PM

HOLY SMOKES BOB!!!!! :eek::eek::cool::cool::cool::cool:

I LOVE IT!! You continue to prove how ANYTHING can be used in making something KILLER!!! True "Old School" modeling indeed! :D

I can't wait to see what it next!!! :D

R L Bleecker

02-05-2008, 02:54 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin5.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin6.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin7.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin8.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin9.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin10.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin11.jpg

Kuhn Global

02-05-2008, 10:14 AM

My blood is beginning to flow as this beastie comes to life. Now that Bob has the forward hull cut, it will be much easier to relate to.

I am VERY excited about this piece! :D

Max Zephyr

02-05-2008, 10:18 AM

I love the pic with the little one sitting there next to it. Very ILM lol. Great start Bob!

R L Bleecker

02-06-2008, 02:26 AM

Thanks guys! Major grunt work was done today. I had to break out the band saw and use my skills as a carpenter!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin12.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin13.jpg

Kuhn Global

02-06-2008, 08:31 AM

OMG, OMG , OMG!!!! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

My drool just increased 10 fold!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL.... I knew it would. The SD design is my favorite! :D

Bob.... this looks FANTASTIC! And.... I LOVE THE INCUMBENT SIGNATURE!!! :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D

R L Bleecker

02-12-2008, 01:27 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin14.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin15.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin16.jpg

R L Bleecker

02-12-2008, 11:06 AM

Thanks, Jon!

Kuhn Global

02-12-2008, 11:40 AM

Oh Yeah!!! :D

These are exciting photos Bob!!! That profile is KILLER!!! :cool::cool::cool:

I can't wait to see more!!! :D

Those detailed parts are unbelievable! After they were detailed and painted, I would never have guessed what they were before hand! LOLOLOLOLOL

R L Bleecker

02-23-2008, 02:53 PM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin17.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin18.jpg

Kuhn Global

02-23-2008, 03:05 PM

NIIIIIIIIIICCCEE!!! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

R L Bleecker

02-24-2008, 01:20 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin19.jpg

Apophis

02-24-2008, 04:52 PM

Looking really cool Bob!!!

Scorpius

02-24-2008, 05:57 PM

Very nice update!

I'm considering my own large scale SD variant....

Kuhn Global

02-24-2008, 10:54 PM

AHHHHHHH,..... the Incumbent Falcon!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

This thing sooooooo reminds me of original ILM builds! LOLOLOL

Excellent my friend! :cool:

R L Bleecker

02-27-2008, 03:33 AM

Thanks guys!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin20.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin21.jpg

Kuhn Global

02-27-2008, 09:19 AM

LOVING those side pieces Bob! :D

It always amazes me when a few coats of paint is placed on a conglomeration of parts to make amazing detail POP! Simply amazing! :D

Those chips look fantastic! :D

R L Bleecker

03-04-2008, 01:59 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin22.jpg

REL

03-04-2008, 02:40 AM

Looking good. The small details really make it come alive.

R L Bleecker

03-04-2008, 02:48 AM

Looking good. The small details really make it come alive.

And are giving me the eyesight of an old man!!!

Thanks. It should start getting more exciting from here at the half-way point.

Damien9479

03-04-2008, 02:54 AM

Man that is looking awesome there OOT...you guys amaze me with what you can do with just some plexi and model kits you have lying around Great work!!!

R L Bleecker

03-04-2008, 02:55 AM

Thanks! It's what the ILM guys did, too.. which makes it all the more fun. I don't get to stretch my scratch-building legs all that often!

Scorpius

03-04-2008, 05:36 AM

Looking shcaaaaweet!

R L Bleecker

03-04-2008, 04:14 PM

The trick for the styrene chips is just to use strip styrene and scissors. Let Evergreen do the heavy cutting...( IE the rip-cuts! )

Max Zephyr

03-04-2008, 04:16 PM

Excellent progress Bob. This the part I hate, all the little tiny bits all over the place. I'll be starting that soon on the SSD and not looking forward to it lol.

Apophis

03-04-2008, 04:18 PM

Cool Bob! Lots and lots of detail! This will be great model!

R L Bleecker

03-05-2008, 01:05 AM

Thanks guys. What's not evident in the pic and probably won't be until some primer is on is that some of those chips have chips of their own glued on top of them! This is multi-level detailing and then there's still some kitbashing to do. I've got a Flak 38 I'm culling some parts from. Great stuff, indeed... armor.

Tomorrow I have to go replenish my supply of epoxy and then get a roll or two of metal tape. I decided that tape on the inside is the way to go for opacity. I don't want to shoot very many layers of paint to block the light, because having multiple paint layers will start to obscure all this detail and make it all look 'soft'.

R L Bleecker

03-06-2008, 02:18 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin23.jpg

Scorpius

03-06-2008, 05:29 AM

Impressive

I concur! You're moving along nicely on this project. Kudos! :D

Max Zephyr

03-07-2008, 01:24 PM

Oh wow I missed the update. You are moving along great Bob. Those injectors for engines look killer back there.

R L Bleecker

03-07-2008, 01:47 PM

Thanks all!

PakRatJR

03-07-2008, 02:14 PM

:eek: WOW!!!:eek:

I don't know how I missed this thread???
Lookin good OOT:D I like the "step by step" with the pics.

Can't wait to see her finished:p

R L Bleecker

03-07-2008, 02:23 PM

Thanks! Things should fit much better now that I've corrected her 'spinal problem'. I left the armature loosely fit just in case I had an issue. I'm glad I did since a lot of test-fitting is still going on.

R L Bleecker

03-11-2008, 03:00 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin24.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin25.jpg

Damien9479

03-11-2008, 03:06 AM

Very Cool!! Lookin' awesome!!

Apophis

03-11-2008, 03:39 PM

Very cool Bob! This one looks much more "balanced" than the shorter version.

Scorpius

03-11-2008, 03:40 PM

She's looking great!

Kuhn Global

03-11-2008, 07:20 PM

OH MY!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: She's REALLY taking shape now Bob!!! :D

I am VERY excited about this beastie! :D

Richard_2001

03-12-2008, 12:02 AM

Bob,

Defiantly looking leaner and meaner than the maquette making me drool! :D

Richard

R L Bleecker

03-14-2008, 07:04 PM

Thanks guys! There's been a slight re-arrangement of priorities. We've decided to extend the deadline a little for Incumbent in order to fast track the Studio Scale TIE Interceptor project and possibly a Botany Bay.

Then I'll be back on target with this project once again.

Kuhn Global

03-15-2008, 10:43 AM

;) :cool::cool::cool::cool:

Scorpius

03-21-2008, 05:03 PM

I did a google image search on the word "venator" and found this kick-ass design, and it reminding me of yours OOT. This seems more of a gunboat or Pt boat type vessel, but it was worth posting imo.....

R L Bleecker

03-21-2008, 06:21 PM

^ That's the one I'd rather they used in Ep. III. Can't say's I like the Venators much.

Kuhn Global

03-21-2008, 07:12 PM

Carlos.... duuuuuuuude! I LOVE the new signature! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Sava_Fett/ResinIlluminati2.gif

Do you mind if I add it to my sig as well? :D

Scorpius

03-21-2008, 08:29 PM

Carlos.... duuuuuuuude! I LOVE the new signature! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Sava_Fett/ResinIlluminati2.gif

Do you mind if I add it to my sig as well? :D

I'd be honored my friend!

Talen

03-21-2008, 10:03 PM

thats the design I have up on my desktop...I got the pics from Sci-fi meshes a while back, if anyone wants I can post the pictures here..hopefully my computer will be functioning tomorrow

Scorpius

03-21-2008, 10:09 PM

thats the design I have up on my desktop...I got the pics from Sci-fi meshes a while back, if anyone wants I can post the pictures here..hopefully my computer will be functioning tomorrow

Hiya Talen!

I'd like to see what you have, maybe post them in the Star Wars section, so we don't hijack this thread? Thanks!

Talen

03-22-2008, 11:18 AM

not a problem..:)

R L Bleecker

04-12-2008, 07:21 PM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/KGin26.jpg

Kuhn Global

04-12-2008, 07:41 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....

R L Bleecker

04-20-2008, 12:01 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin27.jpg

R L Bleecker

04-26-2008, 01:26 AM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin28.jpg

Max Zephyr

04-26-2008, 02:29 AM

Hot damn! I've been waiting for this one to update. Looking great Bob.

777

04-26-2008, 03:05 AM

these are great OOT, I'm looking forward to seeing more.

Damien9479

04-26-2008, 03:15 AM

Looks awesome Bob! :eek::D

Tom

R L Bleecker

04-27-2008, 01:20 AM

Thanks guys!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin29.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin30.jpg

Richard_2001

04-27-2008, 02:57 AM

Bob,

That looks fantastic!!! I love how the engine lights look SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Richard

modman06

04-27-2008, 08:11 AM

Looking great, OOT. how long is that about 2.5 to 3 feet long. love the lighted engines also. give us some more pics as soon as you can.

al

BB43MAN

04-27-2008, 08:20 AM

That lighted engine looks just like it came out of the old ILM model shop! Great job!!

I'll be watching this thread!

reganigami

04-27-2008, 08:23 AM

Very nice!

R L Bleecker

04-27-2008, 11:40 AM

Looking great, OOT. how long is that about 2.5 to 3 feet long. love the lighted engines also. give us some more pics as soon as you can.

al

It measures out to about 27" and change. Thanks for the compliment! And I'll post pix as fast as I can...

I'm working on this, a Salzo X and two other projects at the same time... so if there's a gap in the pic output, my apologies in advance...

Thanks for the props from all of ya, too!

rider

04-27-2008, 02:11 PM

It's looking fantastic, and what's just as admirable is you can still see what you're doing. I would have given up and primered it by now :p

Monsieur Tox

04-27-2008, 02:57 PM

Awesome Bob, Im a huge fan of your model !

Great job, Kurt you're lucky !!

R L Bleecker

04-27-2008, 04:10 PM

It's looking fantastic, and what's just as admirable is you can still see what you're doing. I would have given up and primered it by now :p

I still have a LOT to apply and primer would make that harder! So I just have to be patient....LOL!!!

And Julien... thanks for the words, buddy... :cool:

Kuhn Global

04-27-2008, 04:43 PM

HOLY SHRIEKING MAMMOTHS!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

I think my excitement just stepped up 5 notches!!!

DUUUUUUUUUDE!! Thank you Bob!!! :D:D:D

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin28.jpg

R L Bleecker

04-28-2008, 03:34 AM

How many notches are left?? :D

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin31.jpg

Kuhn Global

04-28-2008, 09:28 AM

Julien, you are right my friend! I really do feel lucky with Bob building this piece. :D

Now.... Bob...

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Need I say more?!! ;) :cool::cool::cool::cool:

R L Bleecker

05-12-2008, 10:23 PM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin32.jpg

Kuhn Global

05-13-2008, 09:36 AM

sweeeeeet....

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

it's grebblie heaven!!!

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::c ool:

Kuhn Global

05-16-2008, 09:29 AM

I am looking forward to viewing progress on this piece. ;)

R L Bleecker

05-16-2008, 11:08 AM

Yessssss. great stuff is still to come...

Scorpius

05-16-2008, 01:29 PM

Cool!

R L Bleecker

05-16-2008, 07:01 PM

I'm going out in search of a christmas light string tomorrow. Long shot, I know... but if I can find one, it'll simplify the lighting significantly.

Kuhn Global

05-19-2008, 02:50 PM

I am VERY antsy for an update. ;) My excitement is boiling over! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL... there is only so much water in that pot! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

INCUMBENT...

... INCUMBENT...

.........INCUMBENT!!! ;) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The Blue screen awaits the beastie! :D

R L Bleecker

05-19-2008, 02:52 PM

And I'm awaiting some lights to put in it!

Kuhn Global

05-19-2008, 03:05 PM

And I'm awaiting some lights to put in it!

Oh. I had thought you bought the lights the day before yesterday. ;) My mistake. :)

R L Bleecker

05-19-2008, 03:19 PM

They were designed to run on AC. Even if I dissect that light string, I still have to figure out the resistor value I need for each LED. And not knowing the current-handling specs of those LEDs, it makes that hard to calculate.

I was looking for those strings that run on DC, but couldn't find any. This is a bad time of year.... so I'm back to square one in soldering up something. I have a request out for some LEDS and resistors. I should have those in a day or two.

R L Bleecker

05-21-2008, 06:52 PM

Logistical update:

Am moving to new quarters the first of June. Updates will follow after that relocation takes place.

modman06

05-21-2008, 06:54 PM

Is this a permanent move, or just going TAD.

al

R L Bleecker

05-21-2008, 07:00 PM

TAD with a very good chance of being permanent.

Kuhn Global

05-21-2008, 07:35 PM

This beastie will be worth the wait. With your move, and additions, I am VERY excited of what this will become! :D I was already excited of what you had already produced!

R L Bleecker

06-11-2008, 09:45 AM

Work will be resuming soon! Due to unforseen circumstances, the move didn't quite happen.

Kuhn Global

06-11-2008, 05:30 PM

Looking forward to viewing more masterful work of yours my friend!

I am VERY excited about this piece! :D

3D-builder

06-14-2008, 08:49 PM

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/projects/KuhnGlobal%20Incumbent/KGin32.jpg

I think the key to interesting detailing is all about relationships between the parts used. Say part A is glued next to part B if they are related or having a working partnership, a interesting linkage part is needed to tie them together.The part that physicaly ties them together usualy becomes more interesting than the two parts it's joining.

If your using a part to stand alone thats fine, but it should be very interesting so that when looking at it, it has a strong sense of importance on it's own. Sometimes if your going to have a stand alone part, stacking smaller parts on top will also make it very interesting.

I think you have some good parts here Bob maybe tie some of them together, to make it pop a little more?

regards,
Michael

Apophis

06-15-2008, 07:00 AM

Cool!

Blappy

06-15-2008, 10:45 AM

BWA HA HA HA! I love it! For me it's RedBulls, Pixy Stix, and sweetened Nestea Iced tea (mixed strong) for those 20 hour work days and all nighters. :gack:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/OutOfTimeLLP/KGin26.jpg

Kuhn Global

09-05-2008, 09:20 AM

HA!! Great time for a bump indeed Jon! :D

I believe Bob has got a few more commissions that he will be doing before getting back on this beastie. Circumstances be what they are, Bob will be re-working some of what he had done to make it even better! I look forward to it indeed! :D

Kuhn Global

12-09-2008, 06:53 PM

THIS beastie is one that has been consistently placed toward the rear, however, Bob and I have now agreed it should be done by that end of January 2009. It should be quite the site when complete. I have been drooling over this project since Bob's tiny original build of his PERSISTANT. :D

ModelMan

12-09-2008, 07:52 PM

R L Bleecker

12-10-2008, 05:25 PM

Well.... a couple of the circumstances with this model is that I've relocated my shop twice in the last year, 3 times in the last 2 years total. This project was affected by the two recent moves. There are a few things I'm reworking on this one. I also recently purchased the lights for it. Lighting plan should be relatively simple with about 10 or 12 white LEDs to light the whole thing. Three for the engines.

The relocations caused some damage to what was already built, so these areas have to be repaired and/or partially rebuilt before I can proceed. The basic shell and armature are just fine though.

R L Bleecker

12-10-2008, 05:28 PM

I think the key to interesting detailing is all about relationships between the parts used. Say part A is glued next to part B if they are related or having a working partnership, a interesting linkage part is needed to tie them together.The part that physicaly ties them together usualy becomes more interesting than the two parts it's joining.

If your using a part to stand alone thats fine, but it should be very interesting so that when looking at it, it has a strong sense of importance on it's own. Sometimes if your going to have a stand alone part, stacking smaller parts on top will also make it very interesting.

I think you have some good parts here Bob maybe tie some of them together, to make it pop a little more?

regards,
Michael

I understand.

What's going on with this piece is that it's on the underside of the rear part of the sail that hangs out over the engine cluster, so you're not seeing this assembly in 'context'. You're seeing it by itself in the view that I posted and that can influence how the detailing is perceived. In other words, it'll tie into the rest of the ship pretty well once it's installed.

R L Bleecker

12-10-2008, 05:34 PM

On the study model, I just ID'ed my first kit pieces ever! Wow! That sensation of ' Hey... I know that piece!' is a strange one! The rebel laser turrets from the AT AT kit and a Veritech laser rifle! Nice uses! I always wondered what kinds of pieces people use on kit bashes, and here I have the very same ones. Nothing exotic at all. (though I'm sure many of the other hundred kit parts are more exotic)

nice job!

Thanks.

On that study model, I used a little of everything lying around. Good job on the parts ID, btw...

R L Bleecker

12-19-2009, 12:58 AM

I've been busy back at it with this one. Here are a couple of 'teasers'...

Now renamed 'Intractible'.

Road Warrior

12-19-2009, 09:40 AM

Looks great! This is "itty bitty" compared with a standard isd isnt it?

R L Bleecker

12-19-2009, 12:10 PM

Thanks and yes... less than half the size of an ISD. It's on par with a Venator class size-wise.

Kuhn Global

12-19-2009, 12:51 PM

HOLY SMACK-DOWNS!!! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!

I have a HUGE smile on my face Bob! DUUUUUUUUDE! :D:D:D:D

General Jaxun

12-22-2009, 04:01 AM

'Oi! I just found this thingamajiggy!

Wow, it's really turning out great! However, it is significantly different than the original build- the command section not being quite as high-risen.

Which is actually something I liked, but this an overall improvement, I might add.

JAWS MODELS

12-22-2009, 11:27 PM

:wtf::wtf::wtf:Where did this come from? Whatever! Niice, very nice indeed Bob.

R L Bleecker

12-23-2009, 12:42 AM

HOLY SMACK-DOWNS!!! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!

I have a HUGE smile on my face Bob! DUUUUUUUUDE! :D:D:D:D

Cool. I'll have one myself when this baby gets blue-screened!

'Oi! I just found this thingamajiggy!

Wow, it's really turning out great! However, it is significantly different than the original build- the command section not being quite as high-risen.

Which is actually something I liked, but this an overall improvement, I might add.

Yeah... That was one of the changes I felt needed to be made... a sleeker, more proportional design. The original maquette was just something I scratched up for the heck of it, but then Kurt had the idea that a larger one would be something he wanted to see AND have. I'm pretty happy with how it's turning out. Almost no bad angles to this design in my opinion.

It is good to see you back at this one, Bob.

Thanks Jon. It's the oldest job still on the books. Going on 2 years now...

:wtf::wtf::wtf:Where did this come from? Whatever! Niice, very nice indeed Bob.

Jason... it came out of storage! In reality, it's based on an early concept for the Super Star Destroyer... I just modified it and shrunk it down and then gave it an electronic warfare mission. I have plans to do another someday based on this basic hull, but with a more standard superstructure ( no overhang to the rear, but still with the bridge wings forward) minus all the ECM gear.

JAWS MODELS

12-24-2009, 12:13 AM

Yeh I know this design. Didn't know you were hav'n a crack at it. good stuff.

rider

12-27-2009, 10:39 AM

Looking great Bob ;)

R L Bleecker

12-29-2009, 09:56 PM

Thanks Mister Rough-Rider!

Here's a pic of Intractible's spankin' new display stand.

Kuhn Global

12-29-2009, 10:54 PM

Now THAT is one sweet base! VERY NICE my friend! VERY NICE INDEED! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

Thank YOU! :D

R L Bleecker

12-29-2009, 11:32 PM

Hey!

Shouldn't you be in bed, Skippy? While the elves are at play?

R L Bleecker

12-30-2009, 12:13 AM

On the study model, I just ID'ed my first kit pieces ever! Wow! That sensation of ' Hey... I know that piece!' is a strange one! The rebel laser turrets from the AT AT kit and a Veritech laser rifle! Nice uses! I always wondered what kinds of pieces people use on kit bashes, and here I have the very same ones. Nothing exotic at all. (though I'm sure many of the other hundred kit parts are more exotic)

nice job!

How did I miss this post?

Thanks. Yeah.. there's all kinds of stuff on the study model. You bingo'd the ones you ID'd.

The phased arrays forward are from a Bandai ScopeDog mecha kit.

R L Bleecker

01-26-2010, 09:23 PM

Well, nearing the final stages now. Was able to get most of the upper section in the light-block paint coat this evening as well as continue on the lower hull detailing.

Kuhn Global

01-26-2010, 10:08 PM

HOLY BUCKETS!!! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

A double whamy post by two master artists with SD's!

BOB!!! I LOVE THIS!!! DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

777

01-27-2010, 03:12 AM

^ Yes, "love" is such a disgusting word! ;)

Even just the perspex sheets look cool!

LastBattlestar

01-27-2010, 06:55 AM

Indeed, that design does not have a bad angle to be seen. Great job, er, Bob, she's really popped with the black primer on!

Mike

R L Bleecker

01-28-2010, 11:36 AM

Hey, thanks guys! I'm turning and burning on this one. Doing mostly chip work on the bottom now. With any luck, I'm on track to have the bottom plates on this thing sometime today with black paint on the whole thing... then the fun of chasing down light-leaks begins...and after that... I get the fun of getting the white paint on, touching up and finishing up. I anticipate being done on or around the first of Feb... which makes this about a 2 year project off and on. yikes...

R L Bleecker

01-31-2010, 05:03 PM

Bottom is on, it's buttoned up and I'm shooting light-blocker and touching up residual light-leaks.

777

01-31-2010, 05:51 PM

Looking very cool, looking very sinister :) :hail:

R L Bleecker

01-31-2010, 10:38 PM

White is going on now. I have to smooth out some rough spots, but this project is getting close to the finish line.

Hackcore

01-31-2010, 11:35 PM

Very nice job Bob! I always like the greyish-effekt with white over black.

R L Bleecker

02-01-2010, 12:17 AM

Thanks Hack. Leaves good shading in the recesses too. I just have to burnish out some rough spots, dust and hairs, then I can hit it again with the white and finish up with the panel work and windows. Structurally she's finished now, though.

Road Warrior

02-01-2010, 10:46 AM

Excellent work.

Realy looks like something built with "Devastator" design ethic in mind. I can just see a couple of these in flanking positions of Devastator as she thunders overhead on screen in ANH.

R L Bleecker

02-01-2010, 12:31 PM

Thanks, Road Warrior. Interesting you mention Devastator. That was about the level of detail I was shooting for, also accounting for the fact this vessel class is much smaller than an ISD I or II.

Well, here are some pix with all the base color on. I'm in process of drilling out windows and then later will be panels and lines.